Have them apply to the top Canadian schools where we accept merit based admission applications. Seems like U of T and waterloo are increasingly accepted in line with Ivy league
One thing to note is that Computer Science applicants massively increased over the past decade, so the CS major is now much more competitive. And it’s hard to hire CS faculty, given the industry salaries offered to CS PhD’s.
I actually will choose college over Google, 4 years undergraduate are the best part of my life, I learnt and grew so much.
the reason that admission drop so much is because every applicant applies to more school now, thirty years ago, most applied to less than 10 schools, Stanley applied to close to 30 perhaps.
population grew like 20% from 260M to 335M; Purpose of college education should not be just professional or career skills. I took only 1 CS related class in undergrad, and 2 CS related in graduate school. The most important thing is that my personality/thinking was formed in that environment.
I totally agree with you. But in America, the college has become prohibitively expensive so a lot more emphasis is on ROI aka learning something to get a good job. So what you describe is harder to achieve because most students are not paying $60K to ponticate about life. That's why college is so broken. Ivy League probably has the kind of environment you mentioned but it's hard to get in and students are on the ends of the income spectrum. Very few middle class students end up going to Ivy and the consequence of that is that many kids are not grounded and living in their fantasy land. I believe this is reflected by Harvard students' statement that Israel is *entirely responsible* for the Hamas attack.
BTW, the applications increased and the enrollment/application ratio stays roughly constant so excessive number of applications doesn't actually translate to lower enrollment rates. I think that's because Berkeley is usually the top choice. Prolly lower enrollment rates for those true "safety schools".
Have them apply to the top Canadian schools where we accept merit based admission applications. Seems like U of T and waterloo are increasingly accepted in line with Ivy league
Point taken. would totally do that. Waterloo, Toronto, UBC, Montreal are all excellent schools.
One thing to note is that Computer Science applicants massively increased over the past decade, so the CS major is now much more competitive. And it’s hard to hire CS faculty, given the industry salaries offered to CS PhD’s.
yes. that makes i the admission rate even lower
I actually will choose college over Google, 4 years undergraduate are the best part of my life, I learnt and grew so much.
the reason that admission drop so much is because every applicant applies to more school now, thirty years ago, most applied to less than 10 schools, Stanley applied to close to 30 perhaps.
I think the population also grew.
I mean the new grads in big companies also form groups so I think there will be some interesting experience there.
Also, EECS was super stressful. My roommate was an EECS major and he basically just studied all the time with very little socialization.
I don't know if the college experience we experienced 30 years ago applies today.
population grew like 20% from 260M to 335M; Purpose of college education should not be just professional or career skills. I took only 1 CS related class in undergrad, and 2 CS related in graduate school. The most important thing is that my personality/thinking was formed in that environment.
I totally agree with you. But in America, the college has become prohibitively expensive so a lot more emphasis is on ROI aka learning something to get a good job. So what you describe is harder to achieve because most students are not paying $60K to ponticate about life. That's why college is so broken. Ivy League probably has the kind of environment you mentioned but it's hard to get in and students are on the ends of the income spectrum. Very few middle class students end up going to Ivy and the consequence of that is that many kids are not grounded and living in their fantasy land. I believe this is reflected by Harvard students' statement that Israel is *entirely responsible* for the Hamas attack.
BTW, the applications increased and the enrollment/application ratio stays roughly constant so excessive number of applications doesn't actually translate to lower enrollment rates. I think that's because Berkeley is usually the top choice. Prolly lower enrollment rates for those true "safety schools".